Hello Mr. Schaeppi
You said:
"Over the last 40 years, more than 30,000 studies have been conducted on the subject. No correlation with adverse health effects has been found."
You and I both know this is a flat out lie. But if it's not, can you provide reference to let's say 100 of the 30,000 studies you cited that were not sponsored by industry, that show no biological effects of exposure to RF-EMF? I remind you that your own patent filing admitted to DNA damage as result of exposure to WiFi radiation, at sub-thermal levels. Yet you and your company lie to people saying it's safe. If you do not answer this email and can't cite even a small subset of such studies, I continue to believe you lied.
Lying to public about matters of public health carries ethical and moral responsibility. You really should cite all 30,000 studies that I believe is a number you fabricated. Prove me wrong. Send me the list. 30,000 studies that show no biological effect, does not exist. I believe it's a fabrication of your imagination to help your profitability. Also, don't forget to include in the answer, whethter each study was industry sponsored or not.
Regards
Réza Ganjavi - Swiss Citizen
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Dear Mr. Schaeppi
Thanks for your message.
1) I am extremely disappointed by your cunning response. First and foremost, you failed to cite even one single study out of your 30,000 studies quote to support that RF-EMF has no biological harm. Therefore, my conclusion stands that you lied. And in your position and level of awareness, I conclude you lied intentionally.
2) Your points of reference in themselves are part of the problem. They're part of the same cartel of ignorance and delusion that's driving your wicked industry which is propagating technology that puts us Swiss people's DNA integrity at risk (yes, even below the "standards").
· Martin Roosli has misrepresented credible science. Look at Professor's Hardell's two articles about him. You can find both in the Letters section of EMFCrisis. While you're on that page click on scientist video and be ready for rude awakening.
· FSM is seriously morally challenged in my opinion. Gregor Dürrenberger & Jürg Leuthold are on record for lying. See my statements to ETH on the same above page (Letters).
· ICNIRP is a seriously flawed organization. Again see Professor Hardell and Colleagues statements on the topic. Independent scientific community generally regards ICNIRP as pathetic.
So first you cannot justify your lie. Then you use 3 sources which are part of the problem as your references to cover up your lie! Reminder: your statement to the press was in context of 5G therefore your 30,000 statement was cunning and gave average listener impression you're talking about RF-EMF. Even if not, your statement was a lie.
I think you're used to using twisted logic. Maybe you can away with that with unassuming Swiss public or the Federal Council, but not with me and with real scientists who are not in the pocked of your industry or have other forms of conflict of interest.
You are twisting the argument here too. I called out your lie. Your response was to refer to dubious sources to justify your statement. But you just failed a miserable logical step. In your press interview you said lack of risk was not shown in 30,000 studies. You did not say because Roosli or FSM or ICNIRP says so. So your argument in this email is a way to dodge that fact. You failed Mr. Schaeppi and acted, in my opinion, intellectually dishonest and cunning.
I think you've gotten used to getting away with such lies. Do you realize these lies impact public health? You also failed to address the fact that your own company admitted DNA damage at sub-thermal levels which here you're denying!
Your entire argument about thermal effect is also part of the cunning lie that's the foundation of the lie you're promoting which shows, just like ICNIRP and FSM, you are also intentionally ignoring the large body of studies that show biological harm.
It must really suck to know all this yet, apparently pretend like they don't exist. I don't know how you sleep at night! Or have you like Donald Trump began to believe the lies that are repeated? Repeating a lie doesn't make it true.
And all this for money!! Where's your moral compass? Truth is the foundation of a civil society, and you as the head of the government's biggest business have a responsibility in being truthful. Truth wins in the long-run. You're generating some seriously bad karma, in my opinion, with every DNA that's damaged, every blood-brain-barrier that's thinned.
Bad Karma Mr. Schaeppi. It's not too late to repent, even for someone who's lost in the industry's ocean of dishonesty, ignorance, and evil ways. All for the sake of money!
Congratulation!
R. Ganjavi
The reply from Mr. Schaeppi of Swisscom is replete with disinformation.
For evidence of health effects from exposure to low-intensity radio frequency radiation see the following links:
"Radio Frequency Radiation Health Risks: Implications for 5G" (Grand Rounds presentation, UC San Francisco, video, slides, 2020)
"We Have No Reason to Believe 5G is Safe" (Scientific American)
International Perspective on Health Effects of Low Intensity Non-Ionizing Radiation
New review study finds that heavier cell phone use increases tumor risk
Key Cell Phone Radiation Research Studies
Scientific Evidence of Harm from Cell Phone Radiation: Two Years of Research
PowerWatch: 1,670 Scientific Papers on EMF (1979 - 2018)
Effects of Exposure to Electromagnetic Fields (studies published from 1990 - 2020)
NTP Cell Phone Radiation Study: Final Reports
NTP: Not the First Govt. Study to Find Wireless Radiation Can Cause Cancer in Lab Rats
Ramazzini Institute Cell Phone Radiation Study Replicates NTP Study
ICNIRP’s Exposure Guidelines for Radio Frequency Fields
International EMF Scientist Appeal
Gruss
R. Ganjavi
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PS -- By the way, Mr. Schaeppi
1) Do you let your child or grandchild sleep next to a WiFi router? If so, you are absolutely stupid. If not, why not? Because you know it damages the poor kid's DNA and causes other biological issues. Swisscom even admitted that in the patent filing I cited, contradicting your hypocritical and false statement that value limits protect us biologically (while you only cited thermal effect!). Another twisted argument.
2) Talking about twisted arguments, I heard you say another pretzel-twisted logically flawed argument on Swiss media, which unfortunately millions of Swiss people believe because they're trained to trust and believe the government and what they see in media. You said there are no studies that show damage. First off that's false. Secondly, that's like a drug company telling Swissmedic, burden of proof is on an external party to show this drug is not unsafe. No. the burden of proof is on the wicked wireless industry. And so far it has failed to show any indication (forget "proof" - another subject for twisted, manipulative arguments) that long-term exposure to pulsed microwave radiation is safe. On the contrary there are lots of studies that show RF-EMF exposure is unsafe biologically.
3) The interview in which you lied about the 30,000 studies was in the context of pulsed microwave radiation. Why didn't you clarify that in your lie about the studies. Regardless, even if you had, you'd still be lying. Remember, your argument in that context was not to use the typical excuses of industry: Roosli, FSM, ICNIRP. Your statement was about the studies but you lied. Don't try to sugar-coat it or divert the argument.
4) If pulsed microwave exposure within value limits are so safe, why did your BAFU recently said "to protect the population" as part of the Adaptive Antennas scandal? Because they know it's harmful to population. But you maintain it's safe, and your company lies to public that it's safe but fact is it's not biologically safe. You can see proof of Swisscom's lies on Letters section of EMFCrisis.
All this dishonesty of your industry is certainly not very "Swiss", and your statements I've cited directly contributed to that dishonesty. Shame! It's time for Swisscom to clean up its act, and best way to start that process is for you to resign, in my opinion.
5) UC Berkley's Dr. Moskowitz called out your lies:
The reply from Mr. Schaeppi of Swisscom is replete with disinformation.
For evidence of health effects from exposure to low-intensity radio frequency radiation see the following links:
"Radio Frequency Radiation Health Risks: Implications for 5G" (Grand Rounds presentation, UC San Francisco, video, slides, 2020)
"We Have No Reason to Believe 5G is Safe" (Scientific American)
International Perspective on Health Effects of Low Intensity Non-Ionizing Radiation
New review study finds that heavier cell phone use increases tumor risk
Key Cell Phone Radiation Research Studies
Scientific Evidence of Harm from Cell Phone Radiation: Two Years of Research
PowerWatch: 1,670 Scientific Papers on EMF (1979 - 2018)
Effects of Exposure to Electromagnetic Fields (studies published from 1990 - 2020)
NTP Cell Phone Radiation Study: Final Reports
NTP: Not the First Govt. Study to Find Wireless Radiation Can Cause Cancer in Lab Rats
Ramazzini Institute Cell Phone Radiation Study Replicates NTP Study
ICNIRP’s Exposure Guidelines for Radio Frequency Fields
International EMF Scientist Appeal
Regards
R. Ganjavi
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Mr. Schaeppi:
Here's a small sample of thousands of studies that debunk your shameless lie to Swiss public about topic of genotoxic pulsed microwave radiation's effect on health:
https://www.5gcrisis.com/scientific-studies
I don't know how you can sleep at night, knowing you (personally and your company) are propagating big lies to us Swiss people, against our health and well-being and full experience of life, and for the sake of money!!
Regards
R. Ganjavi - a Swiss citizen who's sick and tired of your wicked industry's deceptive practices using the excuse of "standards" which I'm sure you know only protects people thermally, against burning, and even your own company admitted oxidative stress and DNA damage occurs at sub-thermal levels.