On Jiddu Krishnamurti Books

By Reza Ganjavi


On Krishnamurti Books 

By Reza Ganjavi

As I gradually downsize my physical life and possessions, I go through almost a hundred books I studied by J. Krishnamurti. Study is the key point. I am not his follower and I do not "believe" in anything he says and I think some of the statements he said were wrong (as you can see below). He provides pointers and insights, some of which are very profound. He also says certain statements that are not true or I disagree with, but he even said himself, "don't follow me". He said this statement many times. He also said it to me directly, when we met -- he also gave me a flower - and we had beautiful profound exchanges (shaking hands, talking, walking). 

I'm going through the markings I made in the books, to select some statements, and keep them as a summary and then given away or dispose of the book.  Some like Think on These Things, or Commentaries on Living, have so many markings that I might as well keep the whole book. It's interesting to see, after years of first reading these books, what still resonates, what is a part of me, what seems insignificant, and what is so profound. 

As the River Joins the Ocean

G. Narayan's book reminds me of the biographies which try to make K into a god. He puts a lot of focus on idolizing K. The book has some questionable parts. Not a valuable book, in my view. 

Four Dialogues at CSUSB University

One of the books I came across was FOUR DIALOGUES WITH MR. J. KRISHNAMURTI and High School and University students and teachers, organize by my old friend Dr. Brij B. Khare with whom I've lost touch for many years (if you're reading this Brij, please contact me).  Professor Khare taught at California State University San Bernardino, California 92407.

Many of the participants are not very familiar with K's work apparently, so he covers many of the basics, which are interesting. I studied this book deeply, as with most of his other books, and made underlines and side notes, and editorial corrections, challenges to the ideas, and filled out extensive evaluation sheets of each of the four dialogues. 

The Presence That Stays

The book contains testimonies by people who knew K. It was published by the JK center in Hyderabad. It has many interesting writings by 

And others. Some of the writings were ridiculous and tried to make a god out of K. And distortions such as appear in some biographies. 


Mr. Krishna Nath and Others' Disrespect for K's Wish Regarding Early Works

K made it clear on a number of occasions, that the early works should be ignored. 

In his book: On The Teachings, Mr. Krishna Nath whom I met in a Swiss summer gathering, disrespected that and published a number of material, which are so NOT Krishnamurti, and K knew it and so he expressly asked that that work be ignored, yet years later that simple wish is disrespected and the material is published. Anyone who reads that material, gets a totally wrong idea of what K and his teachings is about. K had a significant awakening after which he totally discarded some of the things he said earlier. 

Garbage Book: Star in the East by Roland Vernon

In my big pile of K books - stored in a big luggage that's now found its way to the surface to be processed, I came across several terrible books that I had marked as garbage -- such as Roland Vernon's preposterous, horrible, incompetent, biased biography of Krishnamurti, "Star in the East".

Seven Master One Path - by John Selby

About Krishnamurti (chapter 7 - Called Experiencing Bliss)

Review by Reza Ganjavi


The author continually pointed towards the simplicity of the spiritual path once we put aside the confusing clutter of the judging mind. 


This is a typical distortion in interpretation. It shows the author had not really studied K's work. 


Spiritual path is not something which K talks about or assesses as simple or difficult. 


K also does not promote suppressing anything. He suggested understanding, bringing order, and action which comes from understanding.


He refers to K's "followers" but in reality K did not want to have followers. He made it very clear, He even told some of us directly in person that he did not want to have followers. How odd that is for the traditional mind!


Reading more of the authors writing demonstrates how little he has studied K's work before venturing to write about him.


He refers to K's audience calming down and focusing and that he would close his eyes and concentrate.


K spoke a lot about the distinction between awareness, attention and concentration, which implies exclusion etc. but the author is clearly speaking using conventional terms



Garbage Book: Two Birds on One Tree by Ravindra

Another garbage book is Ravi Ravindra's Two Birds on One Tree. He really illustrates how clueless he is about K's teachings. Yet, he is invited as a speaker by Mark Lee and some others at the Krishnamurti Foundation America who are also clueless about core teachings of K which are meaningless unless you live the truth they point to (which have nothing to do with K anymore as truth is truth -- for example, the importance of speaking truth and living noble values like integrity, compassion, etc.). 

My opinion on some at KFA being clueless about K's teachings is based on observing how its leaders have behaved which are so contrary to K's teachings. I've written about that, and still have a major publication to make about the disastrous mismanagement of KFA by Jaap Sluijter and company. 

See: https://www.rezamusic.com/writings/on-j-krishnamurtis-work/about-ravi-ravindras-garbage-ideas-tabloid-book-kfa

See video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yza0e98peEU

See my notes about promotion of Ravindra's garbage book by Friedrich Grohe's Gang: https://www.rezamusic.com/writings/on-j-krishnamurtis-work/the-fifth-foundation

The Theme Books

The Theme books that Mark Lee and company put together after K's death was a disaster. They started specializing K's books by themes,  which made them boring and dull. Compare a boring book in the series "On..." to the general books like Freedom From The Known, or many other books of his, it's evident that these series was a disaster. And such an emphasis was put on the man -- with a big picture of him on the cover (which was not the case in many of the older books including his best-seller "Think on These Things" which had no picture of him - and the first book of his which I read -- I suppose because people like Mark Lee never grasped the depth of what K was talking about -- so they focused on the person instead of the message -- and Mr. Lee went on to promote himself as Mr. Everything Krishnamurti, after K's death, which led to the horrendous situations where he would just make up fake stories in order to sizzle up interest in himself I guess. That's my opinion based on factually incorrect, fictitious nonsense Mark Less has promoted about K. 

But he was not the only one. Other people in that circle were also largely missing the point -- people like Michael Krohnen, who cooked for K.  Just because some people were in K's vicinity doesn't make them philosophers or even good students of K as the real studying is of one's own self, reactions, which in these isolated, protected, small environments of the Foundations, is less present that people living their daily lives who study themselves in the mirror of relationship, earnestly, without direction or motive except to find out and inquire into what-is. 

The ultimate disaster in these foundations, in my opinion, are people like Friedrich Grohe's Gang including Raman Patel, Rabindra Singh, and the people they instated at the foundations such as Jaap Sluijter, the disastrous Executive Director of KFA, Nasser Shamim and Mina Masoumian KFT / Brockwood Park, whom in my view, based on many facts, fast tracked these organizations down a path Krishnamurti dreaded and unfortunately predicted. 


I did a lot of underlining and marking of the biographies, all of which I read with interest. But at this stage in life I find the content uninteresting. I know all about Krishnamurti's development since childhood and don't think it's relevant, as he pointed out himself too, to some of the key challenges and pointers he offered which are very helpful in healing minds and hearts. 

Pupul Jayakar and Mary Lutyens biographies are reportedly distorted, as per opinion of people I respect. One of the books is deemed as fiction than a biography. However, they contain some interesting and important quotes by K, which I underlined when I read them way back when, and will retain those quotes. Mrs. Pupul Jayakar's book has many valuable letters from K, and lots of fun anecdotal stories -- their validity is not known. She also has a lot of herself in the book, which is valuable if we keep in mind that she's expressing her subjective impressions - some of her personal stories with K are quite interesting. But I must also say that as we see in some videos, K was very frustrated in some talks with Pupulji because she didn't seem to grasp some key points, so it was like pulling teeth. 

Trustee Meetings 

I have a number of artifacts which are not published as books, which contain discussions K had with trustees of various foundations, schools, international committees, etc. -- I took the important quotes. What stands out is his dislike for organizations including his own. 

Exploration Into Insight

This is a great book but unfortunately Mrs. Pupul Jayakar is in it and in these conversations as usual she shows to be so clueless and really drags K down -- the conversations of K with Pupul is often like pulling teeth.

Starting around page 65, they are talking about Kundalini and K discards some traditional concepts and misconceptions.

Education and Significance of Life



On Education


without having great energy and therefore great passion and intensity, life must inevitably be, as it is now, a thing of pleasure, entertainment and the accumulation of knowledge or things.


The word `individuality' means `indivisible', not fragmented. Individuality means a totality, the whole, and the word `whole'

what you see is much more important than what you `should do' from what you see. The moment you see very clearly, there is action from that clarity.

what you are is a living thing, and when you condemn what you see in yourself, you are condemning it with a memory which is dead, which is the past. Therefore there is a contradiction between the living and the past. To understand the living, the past must go, so that you can look.

If you follow anybody you are destroying yourself and the other. 

rid yourself of the idea of `if'. Do not live somewhere in the future; the future is what you project now. The now is the past; that is what you are when you say, `I am living now'. You are living in the past, because the past is directing and shaping you; memories of the past are making you act this way or that way. So `to live' is to be free of time; and when you say `if', you are introducing time. And time is the greatest sorrow.

Is there not immediate action? - action that is intelligence; the seeing of the danger and acting; intelligence in which there is no division between seeing and acting. In the very perception is action. When one does not act, insanity begins, imbalance takes place;

The Flight Of The Eagle

First And Last Freedom

Education and the significance of life


There are two parts, the habits, and the observer who is concerned with those habits. And the observer is also a habit. So both are habits. I fiddle with my fingers and the observation comes from an entity which is also the result of habits.

In the deeper layers there may be the source and means of finding out new things, because the superficial layers have become mechanical, they are conditioned, repetitive, imitative; there is no freedom to find out, to move, to fly, to take to the wind! And in the deeper layers, which are not educated, which are unsophisticated and therefore extraordinarily primitive—primitive, not savage—there may be the source of something new.

And a mind that is frightened, though it may not know it is because it is attached, obviously is not free and must therefore live in a constant state of conflict.

thought has nothing whatsoever to do with joy. This is a tremendous discovery for yourself—not something you have been told, not something to write about, interpreting it for somebody to read. There is a vast difference between delight, joy and bliss, on the one hand, and pleasure on the other.

One must have patience to inquire; young people do not have patience, they want instant results—instant coffee, instant tea, instant meditation—which means that they have never understood the whole process of living. [that was 1972 - before personal computers and smart phones]

The point is whether your mind, as that of a human being, acts completely. A human being of the world—you understand?—is not an individual. ‘Individual’ means indivisible. An individual is one who is undivided in himself, who is non-fragmentary, who is whole, sane, healthy; also ‘whole’ means holy.

You cannot be whole if you do not know what love is.

To answer that question we have to inquire into the function of thought, its meaning, substance and structure; because it may be that thought itself divides, and that the very process of trying to find an answer through thinking, through reasoning, causes separation.

Thought inevitably divides life into the past, present and future. As long as there is thought, as the past, life must be divided into time.



Thought is limited because it’s a material process and matter is limited. Except the other type of thought that’s not born from chaotic content… /// also b/c it’s based on experience. Limited so divisive – so conflict.  – identification with group  : want sense of being.

The real issue is, can thought function when necessary, and then be completely still at other times? The mind has to find out whether the brain cells can be totally quiet, and thus respond to a dimension they do not know.

Our society doesn’t see individual qualities -  just adapt to environment To see needs calm mind – if traumatized it’s hard to see In education spontaneous way of learning is suppressed


If you have understood an experience then that experience is over it leaves no residue. It is because we do not understand experience because we remember the pleasure or the pain of it that we are never inwardly simple. Those who are religiously inclined pursue the things that make for outward simplicity. But inwardly they are chaotic confused with innumerable longings desires knowledge. They are frightened of living of experiencing.

When the mind is not cluttered up with words then thinking is not thinking as we know but it is an activity without the word without the symbol therefore it has no frontier. The word is the frontier

So he's distinguishing between thinking with words thinking when the mind free from words

If you are simply aware of the whole structure of habit without resistance then you will find there is freedom from habit and in that freedom a new thing takes place.

It is only the free mind that can perceive something beyond itself.

Conflict will always exist as long as the idea is more important than the fact.

Meditation is a process of freeing the mind from systems end of giving attention without either being absorbed or making an effort to concentrate.

A mind that listens with complete attention will never look for a result because it is constantly unfolding. Like a river it is always in movement. Such a mind is totally unconscious of its own activity in the sense that there is no perpetuation of a self, of a me, which is seeking to achieve an end.

A problem comes into being only when there is a search for result. When does search for result ceases then only is there no problem.

There is no sorrow when there is perception of what is.

If comes obscurely not when you are watching wanting. It is there as sudden as sunlight as pure as the night but to receive it the heart must be full and the mind empty. Now you have the mind full and your heart empty..

If there is a gap between what is said and your own reaction to what is said, in that interval, whether you prolong it indefinitely, for a long period, or for a few seconds, in that interval, if you observe, there comes clarity. It is the interval that is the new brain. Immediate reaction is the old brain, and the old brain functions in its own traditional accepted reactionary animalistic sense. When there is an abeyance of that
When the reaction is suspended, then you will find that the new brain acts, and it is only the new brain that can understand, not the old brain

Having lost the song we pursue the singer. We learn from the singer the technique of song, but there is no song. And I say the song is essential. The joy of singing is essential. When the joy is there the technique can be built up from nothing. You will invent your own technique, you won't have to study elocution or style. When you have UC and the very seeing of beauty is an art.

Is not to ask What is the purpose of life of existence? But to be clear the confusion that is within you. Just like a blind man who asks what. If I tell him what light is he will listen according to his blindness according to his darkness but suppose he is able to see then he will never ask the question what is light. It is there.

Similarly if you can clarify the confusion within yourself find what the purpose of life is, you will not have to ask, you will not have to look for it, all that you have to do is to be free from those causes that bring about confusion

Sorrow breeds sorrow. sorrow is time as thought. To end sorrow is to come into contact with death why living, by dying to your name to your house to your property to your cause so that you are fresh young clear and you can see things as they are without any distortion.

One has to live everyday dying period dying because you are then in contact with life.

With love do what you will, there is no risk, there is no conflict. Then love is the essence of virtue.

Freedom comes when you understand the whole problem of envy greed ambition and the desire for power. It is freedom from those things that allows the extraordinary thing called character to flower. Such a man has compassion He knows what it is to love, not the man who merely repeats a lot of words about morality.

When the mind is completely empty only then is it capable of receiving the unknown. The mind is not purged until it understands the content of relationship, its relationship with property come on with people, until it has established the right relationship with everything. Till it understands the whole process of conflict in relationship, the mind cannot be free. Only when the mind is holy silent, completely inactive, not projecting, when it is not seeking and is utterly still, only then that which is eternal and timeless comes into being.

The mind cannot be still as long as it is ignorant of itself.

That state of creation has no cause therefore a mind in that state is every moment dying and living and loving and being..

To meditate is to purge the mind of its self-centered activity etc etc but also it's good to be quiet and be be quiet of course but he didn't really highlight that that much as much as you should have but these are razzles words reza

What is deeply and thoroughly understood will not repeat itself.

These are Reza's words:

most people the most difficult thing is observing what is. But that is the beginning of self-knowledge. The mirror of relationship does not distort and allows the person to see what they are which brings freedom from conditioning

It is a great art for the mind to be completely silent without coercion. And only then is there a possibility of experiencing that which may be called God.

To be is to be related, and it is only in the midst of relationship that we can spontaneously discover ourselves as we are. It is this very discovery of ourselves as we are, without any sense of condemnation or justification, that brings about a fundamental transformation in what we are -and that is the beginning of wisdom. J.Krishnamurti, Collected Works, Vol. VI,220, Choiceless Awareness  


To be, is to be related; and it is only in the midst of relationship that we can spontaneously discover ourselves as we are. It is this very discovery of ourselves as we are, without any sense of condemnation or justification, that brings about a fundamental transformation in what we are; and that is the beginning of wisdom.

July 16, 1950

When the mind is empty silent, when it is in a state of complete negation, which is not blankness, nor the opposite of being positive, but a totally different state in which all thought has ceased. Only then it is possible for that whichever is unnameable to come into being


Have you noticed that love is silence


Mind with abundant energy is still, it becomes that which is sublime,. That energy is love. 


The real is not separate from that energy itself


When becoming ceases truth comes into being


Belief is a drug 

Thought is the self the me 


Truth beauty virtue  no continuity so not of time so not of thought 


You can find the unknown only in relationship. Too 55


The real comes into being when thought is still. Stillness comes when there is love. 

Is it possible to perceive to feel to react with love so that the mind itself does not become the soil in which the reaction takes root and becomes a problem 


Intelligence is this quality of sensitive awareness of what is


The energy of attention is freedom





These are not verbatim quotes 


The mind events the idea of freedom in another world when it sees that there is no freedom here on this Earth 


It is fear that makes us accept conditioning 


You you can observe very very closely intimately what fear is only when the observer is the observed 


On the occasion of any fear arising there's immediate perception and the ending of it 


The observer the thinker is part of thought. If there is no thinking there is no thinker The two are inseparable, the thinker is the thought. 


But it's possible to think without a thinker being present as a psychological entity as an image that one has that that is the thinker. Because thinking is a process in the mind that can happen when necessary and there is no need for a thinker as a separate entity when that is happening. These are resident jobs words of loo 



When there is any kind of fear in relationship there must be fragmentation, there must be division. 



To watch your reactions throughout the day, in the bus, etc also when you are alone, and Florida wonderful process of observation, the act of seeing, the art of seeing, in which there is no division between the observer and the observed  




To observe clearly there must be no image coming in between the observer and the thing observed

Comparison makes the mind dull

Commentaries On Living - Volume 1

Life Ahead

Contentment is not satisfaction. Contentment is something very vital. It is a state of creativeness in which there is the understanding of what actually is. Begin to understand what you actually are from moment to moment, from day to day, you will find that out of this understanding there comes an extraordinary feeling of vastness, limitless comprehension.

If you are really aware outwardly the inward awareness also begins to awaken and you become more and more conscious of your reaction to what people say to what you read and so on. External reaction or response in your relationship with other people is the outcome of an inward state of wanting of hope of anxiety fear. This outward and inward awareness is an unitary process which brings about a total integration of human understanding. 


I must begin to see the false in my relationships with ideas, with people, with things. When the mind sees that which is false, then that which is true comes into being and then there is ecstasy, there is happiness.

We demand a belief when we want to escape from a fact into an unreality.

Religion is not escape from the fact. Religion is the understanding of the fact of what you are in your everyday relationships, religion is the manner of your speech, play You Talk the way you address your servants, the way you treat your wife, your children, and neighbors.

For most of us contradiction is an extraordinary field in which the mind is caught. I want to do this, and I do something entirely different. If I face the fact of wanting to do this, there is no contradiction. And therefore at one stroke I abolish all together all sense of the opposite. And my mind then is completely concerned with what is, and with the understanding of what is.

Goodness then is not a quality, not a virtue, is the state of love.

The moment the mind ceases to think in terms of becoming something, there is cessation of action which is not stagnation. It is a state of total attention which is goodness

That can be goodness only when there is a totality of attention in which there is no effort be or not to be.

Through a process of evolution, through time, can the me which is the center of evil, ever become noble good? Obviously not. Which is evil, the psychological me, will always remain evil. But we do not want to face that. We think that through the process of time through growth and change I will ultimately some reality. This is our hope, that is our longing. That the eye will be made perfect through time.

What is this eye this me? It is a name, a form, a bundle of memories, hopes, frustrations, longings, pains, sorrows, passing joys. We want this me to continue and become perfect can we say that beyond the me there is a super me, a higher self, a spiritual entity which is timeless, but since we have thought of it that spiritual entity is still within the field of time is it not? If we can think about it, it is obviously within the field of our reasoning.

To learn is a movement from the known to the unknown.

The greatness of relationship is it's very insecurity. By seeking security in relationship you are hindering its function, brings its own peculiar actions and misfortunes.

Most of us avoid or put aside the tension in relationship, referring the ease and comfort of satisfying dependency, an unchallenged security a safe anchorage. Family and other relationships become a refuge, the refuge of the thoughtless.

The craving to become causes fears, to be, to achieve, it depends and genders fear. The state of non-fear is not negation, it is not the opposite of fear no it is courage. In understanding the cause of fear there is its cessation, not to becoming courageous, for in all becoming there is the seed of fear.

Dependence on things, people, or an ideas reed's fear. Dependents arises from ignorance. From the lack of self-knowledge, from Inward poverty. Fear causes uncertainty of mind-heart, preventing communication and understanding.

Through self-awareness we begin to discover and so comprehend the cause of fear, not only the superficial but the deep, causal and accumulative fears. Fear is both inborn and acquired, it is related to the past, and to free thought feeling from it, past must be comprehended through the present. The past is ever wanting to give birth to the present which becomes the identifying memory after me and the Mine the eye the self is the root of all fear